Curse

Keira Nightgale · Nov 14, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Yeh seriously I don't get their point, they are not forcing them to redo any missions, on top of that they are not removing their titles. Anet added a thing to the game, if you want a nice reward fill the book, if not you can leave it alone.

Kha · Nov 14, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by doudou_steve

Oh shut up. Anet is trying their best to please every one of us so the least you can say is Thank you Anet for your efforts.

Nothing can be perfect so accept it.

ANet is trying their best, but they failed horribly with this. Let's look at something here over the course of the game from Nightfall to EotN: They added overpowered consumables and PvE-only skills to the game, they gave us Ursan which was pretty much saying "we don't care about PvE balance, just use this skill", and Shadow Form still dominates farming - all of these things have made PvE far too easy to complete and have ruined the economy, yet I don't deserve my rewards for legitimately doing something in NM and HM just because they don't feel like adding more money in the game? So I don't deserve the rewards that others will get just because I've already done the work?

Don't tell me to shut up because I'm actually caring about getting something I worked hard for - I deserve the same benefits as someone who can now use the numerous overpowered consumables (that they keep added) and the broken skills that they don't care about balancing. If you're fine with getting screwed over by something, that's your problem, but if I have an issue with something in this game that's added/changed, I'm going to speak my mind. I'm still a member of the GW community; I have a right to be concerned about changes in the game and what it says about the future. And as I stated, I said that the people who did the faction/rep changes should be proud of themselves, but the update isn't completely awesome unfortunately.

moriz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by nvmu

People didn't have to do titles but they choose to, so i guess titles are not grinding either, and on that note, if you want to get rewards from the books you have to do it again, just like to get rewards from titles you have to do them..... grind

and do those rewards and titles suddenly give yourself a measurable edge in game performance? do you absolutely HAVE to HAVE to get those rewards? until they do, all that is just optional grind, and have no bearing on how you perform in game.

like i said, some people here have some serious entitlement issues... or just really screwed up logic.

Issac · Nov 14, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Really nice update, so what's the total final cap on the Alliance Faction?

Travaail · Nov 14, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by byteme!

It was just yesterday when a bunch of undeserving degenerates were crying about how this update was small and unfulfilling. From the looks of this update Anet put in ALLLLLLLLLLLLLOT of work. The amount of changes are staggering. Anet gave us an inch and we asked for a mile. Well, we got our mile now. I suspect a few ungreatful individuals are gonna ask for a light year?

i'd rather have gotten an inch and less fixes than to see all of our title achievements made into crap that any noob can get in standard game progress now..time spent should equal rewards not rewards just for owning the game..wtf is the point to keep playing your game arena net? we spent time getting titles and now everyone gets them for less than half the effort we put in..there is nothing left for endgame players now except pvp since even FoW and UW are noobzones now with permaform dominating

Tom Swift · Nov 14, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Over all - excellent update

A little disappointed that SS and LB no longer count toward favor of the gods but I've got 50 UW scrolls sitting in storage so it won't hurt me too much.

Something is still wrong with Xunlai Tournament house though - got 80pnts on one account and 155 points on another although they both made the exact same predictions (not complaining though since I in no way deserved them for my picks anyway).

Oh, and jadeite and amber are now sold out at merchant (that plus the extra drops from the end chests just might make Urgoz worth doing again) that little change should have an interesting effect on the economy.

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Keira Nightgale

Yeh seriously I don't get their point, they are not forcing them to redo any missions, on top of that they are not removing their titles. Anet added a thing to the game, if you want a nice reward fill the book, if not you can leave it alone.

People were never forced by the game or anet to work on titles, but yet you guys got what you wanted, because you were not willing to work on the titles to get the just reward for that

NeHoMaR · Nov 14, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

I just did the first mission in Nightfall in Hard Mode for test the book and it is still empty. Bug?

moriz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by nvmu

People were never forced by the game or anet to work on titles, but yet you guys got what you wanted, because you were not willing to work on the titles to get the just reward for that

people like you are all under the assumption that the titles are now somehow EASIER to get. as far as i can tell, that's not the case. anet merely added new ways to get them. until you can conclusively prove that these new ways are dramatically more effective than what you've used, your entire argument is moot.

if anything, the kurzick/luxon points are slightly harder (or at least more involving) to get. you can't exactly HFFF anymore. vanquishing and playing alliance battles are certainly not hard, but still harder than clicking a bunch of heroes around every 1 minute or so.

Master Ketsu · Nov 14, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

ANet, very good job, very good indeed, gunna go collect a ton of shiet in GW right now.

And to all the PvP grievers, get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over yourselves

Sorry for wanting the game to be what it was originally advertised as: a PvP based ORPG where player skill > time spent. This update is utter trash. It just makes optional grind easier, which really isn't grind at all.

Keira Nightgale · Nov 14, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by nvmu

People were never forced by the game or anet to work on titles, but yet you guys got what you wanted, because you were not willing to work on the titles to get the just reward for that

What are you implying? Basically you just wanted a reward for having completed these areas, but you already got your reward (your title). The addition of these books is finalized to have people do these titles, thus is directed to the average player (not title grinder), you can see the books as a further motivation.

Dzjudz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I just did the first mission in Nightfall in Hard Mode for test the book and it is still empty. Bug?

Did you use the right book?

Sora267 · Nov 14, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I just did the first mission in Nightfall in Hard Mode for test the book and it is still empty. Bug?

Perhaps you got the NM version of the book? There's two different versions, IIRC.

Issac · Nov 14, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

The alliance battle updates are pretty nice.

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Keira Nightgale

What are you implying? Basically you just wanted a reward for having completed these areas, but you already got your reward (your title). The addition of these books is finalized to have people do these titles, thus is directed to the average player (not title grinder), you can see the books as a further motivation.

so by your logic we already have the title, so we should be screwed out of the rewards that are now given for something we already did, meanwhile giving the casual player more stuff for doing something that will result in him getting more out of it then we have gotten out of it, i'm not asking for unlimited uses, just 1 use of each book for the people that already have the title, it would only put the legendary defenders(or people who have only completed a few) on the same playing field as the casual players

naughteblonde · Nov 14, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

The Chahbek Village mission shows fine for me - pg 11 of the Young Heros book

hallomik · Nov 14, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Awesome update.

However, I agree pages should have been filled retroactively. A little gold inflation wouldn't have been that bad. Meh.

I like seeing Urgoz abuzz again. Hopefully, some more teams will be filling up there soon.

snaek · Nov 14, 2008, 02:04 AM // 02:04

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Originally Posted by travaail

there is nothing left for endgame players now except pvp since even FoW and UW are noobzones now with permaform dominating

this

decent update
but its of no use to me
and im sure many others who r already done wit their titles

but im happy to those that did get a benefit from this update
and it definately improves the gw game quality

i was really hopin that i could get back into pve wit this update
but im not goin to be, cuz i've already been there done that

to be honest...theres nuthin really new here
they jus tooked the "refined" system of nf/eotn
and applied it to the "unrefined" system of proph/factions

while its a lot of coding work
there wasnt much thought process required

even still, i think lindsey put way more thought into this update
than izzy did in last weeks skill balance

i hope for next month...
lindsey gets her well deserved vacation
and izzy steps up his game

AerisAMP · Nov 14, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I just did the first mission in Nightfall in Hard Mode for test the book and it is still empty. Bug?

nope. the nightfall book starts with Consulate Docks.
The first NF mission gets you a page in Young Heroes of Tyria.

Fay Vert · Nov 14, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Some nice (and much needed) changes to K/L faction, but the simultaneous faction add was a blunder. You can't get the SS/LB book in normal mode if you are advanced in those titles (presumably because SS/LB is the reward), and all the books not being retro (presumably because the reward is cash doh!) and consuming so much valuble story all add up to bad.

Poorly thought out update FailNet